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Ultrasound Daily Digest Fri, 22 Jan 93 Volume 2 : Issue 19
Today's Topics:
---> Dune II <---
CD-ROM daughter board
GUS and T2029 WORKING
MAXOK not working with GUS
Micropose Games with GUS
Opti Chipsets
Questions and List of Gravis Contacts
re : The latest from Gravis...
Sierra/Dynamix -- BAD NEWS
Tested working GUS MIDI interface
ultima7
Ultrasound Daily Digest V...
Ultrasound Daily Digest V2 #18 (2 msgs)
Windows Drivers
Winjammer 2.23 + GUS has a small bug
Winjammer problems
Information about the UltraSound Daily Digest (such as
mail addresses, request servers, ftp sites, etc., etc.) can be found
at the end of the Digest.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:28:44 -0700 (MST)
From: michael a finkel <mfinkel@argon.GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU>
Message-Id: <Pine.3.05.9301210244.A9338-a100000@argon>
Subject: ---> Dune II <---
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
Playing Dune II I seem to have to make a choice, hearing music in the
title screen (before crashing), hearing Voice before crashing, or no sound
and playing the game. This is not a choice that I like to have to make.
Has anyone gotten it to work with music and sound? If so, please let me
know your SBOS setup, memory setup, IRQ etc...
Also...Ultima Underworld II, I cannot get the voices to play at all. The
game doesn't crash, but I don't get voices.
| | Tell me something I don't know |
| MFinkel@Gas.uug.Arizona.edu | Show me something I can use |
| =----> Tucson, Arizona | CONNECT THE GOD DAMN DOTS |
| | -=Ministry=- |
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:31:19 -0800
From: Charles Choi <choi@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Message-Id: <199301210931.AA05731@bigbang.berkeley.edu>
Subject: CD-ROM daughter board
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
In a previous issue of the digest (v2 #13), there was a list of
daughterboards posted. One of them was a daughterboard for the
Mitsumi CD-ROM drives. All the ads I've seen for Mitsumi drives
also included a controller. Does anyone know what benefit you
get (if any) from using the daughterboard rather than the standard
controller?
Charles
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Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:29:41 -0500
From: Kevin Wengcheong Cheng <kc3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Message-Id: <8fLUeJe00VpEMZkpZC@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GUS and T2029 WORKING
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
Just in case anyone is wondering...
I managed to get the digitized audio to work... I think...
Using SBOS 1.23 with no switches ( -o3 seems to hang the thing )
and settings
ULTRASOUND IRQ = 5
MIDI IRQ = 7
This was someone's ( I can't remember who ) suggestion that IRQ 7 is
hardwired in T2029. I figure that this might be the same problem with
alot of games with digitized audio problems. Unfortunately, I also found
out that with the IRQ settings this way, The Lost Files of Sherlock
Holmes just crashes on me...
Anyone want to confirm this?
And who's updating the compatibility list?
/<evin
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:07:32 GMT
From: norm@bnr.ca (Norm MacNeil)
Message-Id: <1993Jan21.200732.16911@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>
Subject: MAXOK not working with GUS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
After recently getting my GUS card, I decided to try out the Maximum OverKill
(Commanche) demo I downloaded but no matter what the option, I can't get any
music or sound. I have run the setup program (or whatever it was) and chose
both SoundBlaster and AdLib but neither will work.
Anybody got the MAXOK demo to work with a GUS?
Thanks,
Norm.
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Norm MacNeil Phone: (613) 763-3372
Data Systems Fax: (613) 765-2854
Bell-Northern Research Ltd. EMail: norm@bnr.ca (INTERNET)
#include <disclaimer.std> "Roller bladers do it in-line!"
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Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:22:09 GMT
From: pancake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Daniello)
Message-Id: <1jmpkiINN1v7@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: Micropose Games with GUS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>Yes, I find Civilization and F15-III to be painfully slow. Even on a
>486DX2-66. Deep hurting. I really haven't found a cure though.
>
>Dan
I have troubles with Civilization now and then, but it seems to me that
EMM is the culprit. It runs quick without it.
--
/// The Fierce Pancake /// "...because you have another eyelid."
/// pancake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu /// -Galaxie 500
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:03:19 EST
From: wolf@allegro.mit.edu (Brian Perreault)
Message-Id: <9301212203.AA05655@presto.mit.edu>
Subject: Opti Chipsets
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
I just bought a GUS, and was wondering what the symptoms
of a bad motherboard are. I set it up on a 16 bit DMA channel,
and my system still works, but I've had a little trouble getting
SBOS to work with anything. Oh, yeah, I cannot get the Wing Commander
II Install program to run(it crashes my system now) whereas I could
before I installed the ultrasound.
So, what are the classic symptoms?
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:20:18 -0500
From: "It's your hand, Buckaroo" <dantonio@magick.tay2.dec.com>
Message-Id: <9301211620.AA10931@magick.tay2.dec.com>
Subject: Questions and List of Gravis Contacts
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
> Thanks for the warning! I think I still end up trying and hoping.
> I got my computer in late '91 or early '92. It shouldn't be an "old"
> chip set (if those are the ones mostly having the problems).
No problem...
I've called Digital Audio Labs (the folks who informed Gravis of the
details of the problem) and they say it's sorta random. They contacted
OPTi, who sent them a spec sheet with UMC at the top of the page. So I
think the chipsets are related.
The chip is question is the 82C206, DMA and interrupt controller chip. Both
bad systems that Digital Audio Labs saw had a datecode of 9149. There are a
couple known solutions, the easiest of which is to simply use an 8-bit DMA
channel. The next is to disable the DMA cascade (channel 4), however this
causes all the low DMA channels to be inactive (0-3). Generally not a good
thing. The third is a hardware mod, adding a pull-up resistor to the bad
pin. This is a dangerous solution as soldering irons and motherboards
usually don't do well together.
DAL is faxing me some more specific info, including OPTi's number so I
can get something "offical", perhaps...
DDA
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:31:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dave Ingles <davei@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Message-Id: <10443.9301210931@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: re : The latest from Gravis...
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
> Ok, folks, just got off the phone with Gravis. A couple bits o' info...
>
> The MidiSoft and Power Cords bundle should be about $10 which just about
> covers shipping/handling to send it out. There is supposed to be a message
> on the Gravis BBS with all the details...
Are they intending on sending out order forms to registered users or do we
have to make contact ourselves ?
I hope that they are also going to use an upgraded version of MidiSoft
Session as my version doesn't support auto patch loading. Also the Staff
Notation editor is pretty useless to use in anger.
Davei
--
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>> D.Ingles@uk.ac.lancaster <<
>> Telephone (0524) 59 3679 <<
>> Higher Education National Software Archive, <<
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:18:51 MST
From: bfa!poet@uunet.UU.NET (John Poet)
Message-Id: <9301212118.AA28974@noname>
Subject: Sierra/Dynamix -- BAD NEWS
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
I logged onto the Sierra/Dynamix BBS and asked about the sound problems
with their games ane the Gravis Ultrasound. Within a couple of days I got
this response back from them:
The Gravis board just started selling in the U.S. We are aware of
the incompatabilities with our software. We're working on creating
drivers for this board being that it's Soundblaster emmulation is
not the greatest in the world. Wwhen drivers are available
we'll have them in the MUSIC library for downloading. Keep in
touch. Take care.
Steve
This was good news and I was hoping to get a time-frame as to when the
driver would be available, so I sent this message:
I realize that you are working on Gravis Ultrasound support. Can you
give me some time frame as to when this might be available? I don't
need exact info just a guess so I don't have to log in every day just to
see if it is ready yet.
Thanks,
John
Unfortunately, this is the response I got back a week later:
We're aware of incompatabilities with the Gravis Ultrasound's
Soundblaster emmulation. This is really a Gravis issue. It's not
up to us as a software company to produce sound drivers for every
sound card out there. We've already create sound drivers for many
of the most popular sound devices. Given that the Gravis Ultrasound
is "supposed" to emmulate the Creative Labs Soundblaster, we will
probably not be creating a individual driver for the Gravis card.
We have as yet been unable to contact Gravis in an attempt to obtain
on of their cards for testing purposes. Eventually we'll have more
information as to compatibility with our products. Take care.
Steve
So Sierra/Dynamix seems to have changed their mind as far as supporting
the GUS in the near future.
John P. Poet uunet!bfa!poet
Systems Software Engineer (505) 828-9120
Aeon Systems
8401 Washington Pl, N.E.
Albuquerque, N.M. 87113
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Date: 21 Jan 93 15:44:26 GMT
From: pcunnell@micrognosis.co.uk (Paul Cunnell)
Message-Id: <C17nq3.LM5@micrognosis.co.uk>
Subject: Tested working GUS MIDI interface
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
Just another data point - the circuit below works for me. This has
been posted here and elsewhere before. Only minor mod is the pin
assignments for the midi-out inverters, which were originally
incorrectly drawn as 14-13, 12-10.
Have tested this with my D50, and both midi in and out are OK.
15 pin D connector
220R
pin-1 +5v ----+--------------------------/\/\/\---------------\
| \ 4
| Gnd--2 MIDI OUT
| |\ |\ 220R / 5
pin-12 tr >---|------| o-----| o----------/\/\/\--------------/
| 13|/ 12 11|/ 10
| 220R
+---------------------------/\/\/\-------------\
| \ 4
pin-15 rx <---|--------------------+ Gnd--2 MIDI THRU
| |\ |\ | 220R / 5
| +--| o-----| o---+-------/\/\/\------------/
| | 1|/ 2 3|/ 4
| |
| +------+
| 270R | 220R
+--/\/\/\--+ +------+----------/\/\/\--------\
|B |C |A | \ 4
+-|----------|----|-+ | MIDI IN
| 8 6 2 | ----- / 5
| | / \ IN914 or IN4148 +-/
| 6N138 | --- |
| | | |
| 5 3 | | |
+------------|----|-+ | |
| |K | |
pin-5 Gnd --------------+ +------+----------------------+
Inverters are 74LS04. (This is a 14-pin IC containing 6 inverters.
Connect pin 14 to +5V, pin 7 to GND)
Leave pin 2 of the MIDI IN unconnected (Don't connect to ground)
Oh, does anyone have the MIDI implemetation chart (or other tech.
reference for a Roland D-50 ? I was trying to get it to give me
a Sys-EX dump, but it appears to be waiting for something to happen
*after* I press the button to do a send.
Any clues ?
--
Paul Cunnell (pcunnell@micrognosis.co.uk)
Micrognosis, 63 Queen Victoria Street, London, EC4N 4UD, UK +44 71 815 5294
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:19:06 -0600
From: Michael J Stumpf <mjs7529@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Message-Id: <9301220019.AA00692@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Subject: ultima7
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
Apologies if this has been posted and missed, but how did any of you guys
get Ultima 7 to work? I read in the general listing that you use sbos 1.23,
and I did that.. but, the digital speech comes out ofor only a split
second and then dies..
The manual said if this happened it was an irq conflict, but that was for
a genuine sb..
My computer is a 486/33, never had a problem with any other ultrasound tool
except the dram tester. (reports bank 3 and 4 or just 4 bad) Bare system,
except himem.sys and dos being high, and of course sbos 1.23.
Whoever got this working, please let me know how you did, if you used the
device driver in conjunction with the tsr (as the included text file implies)
or what..
Thanks,
Mike.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:58:06 EST
From: nickwt@aol.com
Message-Id: <9301211458.tn65724@aol.com>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V...
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
Please drop me from the mailing list.
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:47:58 -0500
From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu
Message-Id: <9301211547.AA12386@cygnus.umd.edu>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V2 #18
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>
>Gravis was wondering, with all the clamour for OS/2 drivers, what all
>people were going to DO with them. Can you send me a list of apps that will
>use the GUS if native drivers become available? Are there alot of apps that
>support MMPM/2? What will you use the GUS for under OS/2??
>
>DDA
Swallowing my incredible annoyance with this INANE question, I'd like to
be able to USE my Ultrasound under OS/2. When I say USE, I mean I want to
be able to use it with WinOS/2, with the OS/2 MMPM/2, and with DOS under
OS/2. With ALL apps. I want an OS/2 specific version of SBOS so that games
will think there is a SBPro installed etc etc etc.
How does it MATTER whether there are a lof of apps that support MMPM/2?
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 14:53:47 -0800
From: paladin@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Robin Yang)
Message-Id: <9301212253.AA03800@ucscb.UCSC.EDU>
Subject: Ultrasound Daily Digest V2 #18
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
Okay, thanks.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:23:41 +0000 (GMT)
From: Dave Ingles <davei@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Message-Id: <8131.9301210923@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: Windows Drivers
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
> What's the deal? What did I do wrong? Did I forget to sacrifice an
> animal? I switched back to the old drivers, and MIDI worked again.
> Not patch manager, of course, but Media Player and Winjammer
> worked fine.
I found that when I updated to the new drivers the same thing happened - no
sound device worked under windows.
My solution was to remove the new sound driver, reboot, reinstall the
old driver, check to see if the old driver worked - it did, remove the
old driver, reboot, install the new driver, reboot, and then it worked
! Why it didn't work the first time, I don't know.
I also have found on a couple of occassions that after using a sound
program, Windows will no longer be happy with the driver. I have to
remove and restall the driver to get it to work again.
Davei
--
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>> D.Ingles@uk.ac.lancaster <<
>> Telephone (0524) 59 3679 <<
>> Higher Education National Software Archive, <<
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:42:40 +0100 (MET)
From: Andreas Henning <d2henan@dtek.chalmers.se>
Message-Id: <9301211943.AA05634@hackes.dtek.chalmers.se>
Subject: Winjammer 2.23 + GUS has a small bug
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
About Winjammer 2.23 causing a general protection error:
According to the author of WinJammer, the GPE occurs if you have
configured more than one port, for instance, GUS and an MPU-401,
and you only use one of them.
Even if your only MIDI device is the gus, you can configure it
as two output ports, one for the internal synth, and one for the MIDI
port.
If you configure the Winjammer to use only the GUS as the output port,
it should work. (It does for me)
Hope this helps,
--
Andreas Henning -- d2henan@dtek.chalmers.se
Student of Computer Science at Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden
"Why stop now, just when I'm hating it?" - Marvin The Paranoid Android
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:06:26 CST
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Message-Id: <9301211606.AA20744@batman.austin.ibm.com>
Subject: Winjammer problems
To: Ultrasound Daily Digest <ultrasound@dsd.es.com>
>So "works wonderfully" isn't the term I would use to describe WinJammer
>2.23...And there is also the fact that it succeeds in being BOTH
>crippleware AND nagware at the same time! I am impressed...
I have had no problems with it. Works great. Could it be something else
on your end?
I'd suggest that anyone who has trouble with Winjammer contact the
author, Dan McKee, at 70742.2052@CompuServe.COM. He's very good
about answering user questions and very nice too.
Your mileage may vary, but things work great for me.
Ken
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